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How should "Add DVB Network by Location" work?

Added by Akos Sz over 11 years ago

Hi,

I try to populate the Multiplex list by using "Add DVB Network by Location" option. Sometimes it does something, sometimes not.
When I select "Astra_23_5_E" position then it adds a bunch of new multiplexes to the list, when I select "Astra_19_2_E" then nothing is added.
I have doubts if the list of added multiplexes is up to date at all.
So,
- what is the source of the added multiplex data? How could I make it up to date?
- why some satellite positions are not populated?
- how could I clean up multiplex list? How could obsolete multiplexes be deleted?

BR,
Sakos


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RE: How should "Add DVB Network by Location" work? - Added by Rob vh over 11 years ago

I have used the Add by location last week, for Astra 1, 2 and 3, Hotbird and it works. You have to specify the correct diseqc (satellite) position before clicking the Add button.
It takes a little while to complete, so be patient.
Then, when the muxes are loaded, it will start to scan the muxes, unless you have specified "skip initial scan" on the General properties of the Adapter.
If you disagree with the mux definitions, you can use the Add mux(es) manually button. Remember to specify the Satellite config (diseqc info) and check that none of the input fields are indicated as "invalid data" by a red box.
Deleting muxes is as easy peasy, go to the Multiplexes tab, click on the first mux you want to pull, go to the last and click with shift-click, press the Delete selected button. This will pull the muxes from the adapter where you deleted them.

RE: How should "Add DVB Network by Location" work? - Added by Akos Sz over 11 years ago

Thanks for yor response.

Since the source of DVB transponder list is unknown for me, I decided to write a simple SW to manage the multiplex database.
It will maintain the list always up to date by adding/removing/changing muxes (and deleting connected stream&channel info when necessary)

My other problem is that the GUI is not prepared to handle thousends of services.
Only two things are missing form the GUI:
- filtering in any columns to decrease the amount of displayed rows
- allowing modifications of multiple rows once. (eg. setting channel tags on multiple channels at the same time)

These modifications would highly improve the usability of TVH GUI.
Unfortunatly I have no enough competence to make it by myself.

RE: How should "Add DVB Network by Location" work? - Added by Akos Sz over 11 years ago

The "Add DVB Network by Location" is still not working for me.
eg
- it adds only a single transponder for Astra 19.2E
- transponder list on other satellites are also incomplete, and many transponder have invalid parameters

I prepared a stupid software for updating the transponder database by using ini files downloaded from kingofsat.com. It can
- add missing transponders
- update existing transponder parameters
- remove obsolete transponders with corresponding services

If anyone interested in it, please contact me.

RE: How should "Add DVB Network by Location" work? - Added by Adam Sutton over 11 years ago

A single mux is usually all that is required, the rest should be autodetected (assuming you've enabled it) from that mux. This is generally the way its supposed to work within TVH, however due to some of the crap that exists in the network tables some people prefer to do everythign manually.

Adam

RE: How should "Add DVB Network by Location" work? - Added by Akos Sz over 11 years ago

Thanks Adam,
It works as you described, however I observed an odd thing.

The autodetect found some fake, non-existing MUX-es as well.
eg:
Apr 06 14:52:36.208 dvb: New mux ": 11,303,000 kHz Horizontal (Astra1D 23,5E)" created by automatic mux discovery
Apr 06 14:53:43.927 dvb: New mux ": 11,302,750 kHz Horizontal (Astra 19,2E)" created by automatic mux discovery

11,303 is not existing MUX according to kingofsat.net database. OFC, it could be a missing information in the database.

BUT.

1st strange thing that TVH detects the same services on both these MUX-es!

{
"service_id": 4900,
"pmt": 0,
"stype": 25,
"scrambled": 0,
"channel": 0,
"provider": "Anixe HD",
"servicename": "Anixe HD",
"dvb_eit_enable": 1,
"pcr": 0,
"disabled": 0
}
and {
"service_id": 4901,
"pmt": 0,
"stype": 25,
"scrambled": 0,
"channel": 0,
"provider": "AstrA HD Promo",
"servicename": "Astra HD Promo",
"dvb_eit_enable": 1,
"pcr": 0,
"disabled": 0
}
These servicese are not existing either.

2nd strange thing that TVH does not detect the valid services on 11,302,750 kHz Horizontal (Astra 19,2E). I mean ORF1 HD, ORF2 HD, Servus TV HD.

3rd strange thing that if I remove 11,302,750 kHz Horizontal (Astra 19,2E) MUX and add as 11,302,000 kHz, then it detects the valid services. All other settings remain the same.

I am not sure if this single MUX is affected only or there are other similar cases.

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