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"www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org"

Added by Mono Polimorph over 6 years ago

Hi,

From several weeks the address "www.tvheadend.org" isn't resolved as "tvheadend.org".
Check it here:
http://tvheadend.org
http://www.tvheadend.org

The problem isn't the physical IP address, but the "domain name" resolved by the hosting service (HTTP server).

I suggest to create a redirection file, or change the DNS name; as using some browsers the "tvheadend" homepage is resolved as "www.tvheadend.org".

Regards.


Replies (10)

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by saen acro over 6 years ago

www is sub domain
used in past, cant believe someone still will write in browser
http://www.

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by Robert Cameron over 6 years ago

Tvheadend's website is: https://tvheadend.org

Tvheadend's website is not: http://www.tvheadend.org

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by Mono Polimorph over 6 years ago

saen acro wrote:

www is sub domain
used in past, cant believe someone still will write in browser
http://www.

Most recent browsers will include "www." when you type the name. This is the problem!

Robert Cameron wrote:

Tvheadend's website is: https://tvheadend.org
Tvheadend's website is not: http://www.tvheadend.org

Yeah! This is right now. However, it doesn't have sense. The address "http://www.tvheadend.org" will need to respond with a REDIRECTION (HTTP response 301 Moved Permanently) to "https://tvheadend.org".

That's all!

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by saen acro over 6 years ago

with google creature do address overwrite?

change dns

cloudflare
1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1

opendns
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

google
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by Robert Cameron over 6 years ago

Mono Polimorph wrote:

saen acro wrote:

www is sub domain
used in past, cant believe someone still will write in browser
http://www.

Most recent browsers will include "www." when you type the name. This is the problem!

Robert Cameron wrote:

Tvheadend's website is: https://tvheadend.org
Tvheadend's website is not: http://www.tvheadend.org

Yeah! This is right now. However, it doesn't have sense. The address "http://www.tvheadend.org" will need to respond with a REDIRECTION (HTTP response 301 Moved Permanently) to "https://tvheadend.org".

That's all!

What do you mean it "doesn't have sense" and a redirect is needed? There is no redirect needed because the website is not at www.tvheadend.org.

The use of "www" as a host identifier is a carryover from the early days of the internet when it used to be necessary to differentiate between the different services a host provided, such as www, ftp, gopher, mail, etc. Just because you feel that Tvheadend's servers should automatically correct your mistaken preconceptions does not make it so.

The proper host to reach Tvheadend's services is tvheadend.org. www.tvheadend.org is a host that does not exist, so don't try to reach it. (It's a bit like dialing the wrong phone number, but in your case you're expecting the wrong number you keep dialing to somehow be forwarded to the right number. Stop doing that and just dial the correct number.)

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by M. Bergmann over 6 years ago

Robert, your explanation is correct on a factual basis, nevertheless the first thing a lot of users will use is 'www.tvheadend.org'. Simply because they are used to it.

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by saen acro over 6 years ago

So it need to register sub-domain, with will return to base domain?
This is pointless.

RE: "www.tvheadend.org" address != "tvheadend.org" - Added by Robert Cameron over 6 years ago

Tim Bremer wrote:

Robert, your explanation is correct on a factual basis, nevertheless the first thing a lot of users will use is 'www.tvheadend.org'. Simply because they are used to it.

Yes and no. In general, the types of users who would default to entering a www subdomain by default are most likely the types of users who would generally Google everything, or use the Google search box as if it were the actual address location box. For that group of users, it doesn't generally matter what the actual host is, because it'll be ignored and reached through a search link.

If you make everything conform to legacy ideas, you'll never achieve progress.

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