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Ts this answer you question
https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-quadHD_(DVB-T/T2/C)

TBS drivers

saen acro wrote:

Ts this answer you question
https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-quadHD_(DVB-T/T2/C)

TBS drivers

I agree. Go for the Hauppauge if you want less hassle, not that TBS devices are bad, it's just annoying to have to keep building/installing the drivers on kernel upgrades, and dealing with other quirks.

Thank you, both.

Unless anyone can suggest another brand of card, I shall go with the Hauppauge.

One of the reason I switched from Windows to a Linux Server/PVR was because I spent so much time maintaining it - trouble with TBS drivers seems a big step back in that respect.

A couple of negative reviews about the Hauppauge have made me a bit wary.

I have also found this page:

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/linux.html

How does this differ from the link, added above (sorry - still very much a Linux beginner)?

A L wrote:

Thank you, both.

Unless anyone can suggest another brand of card, I shall go with the Hauppauge.

One of the reason I switched from Windows to a Linux Server/PVR was because I spent so much time maintaining it - trouble with TBS drivers seems a big step back in that respect.

A couple of negative reviews about the Hauppauge have made me a bit wary.

I have also found this page:

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/support/linux.html

How does this differ from the link, added above (sorry - still very much a Linux beginner)?

You won't need that if you're running kernel, 4.8+, you just need the firmware.

That's great - thank you.

So the link I posted is for drivers and the link that was posted before was for firmware.

I have checked my kernel version

[code]uname -r
4.9.0-0.bpo.3-amd64[/code]

So, I should be good to go, once I have added the firmware.

Are you definitely after PCIe? On ebay a DVB-T2 USB tuner is 17 pounds, so four would make 68 pounds, which is cheaper than the PCIe card. That means you could buy six of them. Or throw in a good signal booster and it is still cheaper. Though of course, cabling is much messier with usb tuners, but has the advantage that you can migrate them to lower-spec hardware (such as a Pi) in the future.

Em Smith wrote:

Are you definitely after PCIe? On ebay a DVB-T2 USB tuner is 17 pounds, so four would make 68 pounds, which is cheaper than the PCIe card. That means you could buy six of them. Or throw in a good signal booster and it is still cheaper. Though of course, cabling is much messier with usb tuners, but has the advantage that you can migrate them to lower-spec hardware (such as a Pi) in the future.

Or a fiver (GBP£5) each if you are happy to work with the new XBox One DVB-T2 drivers - though I understand these aren't for everyone.

Does the patched driver now support more than one xbox one DVB-T2 tuner? I was following the thread and they were making great progress, but some people said it didn't support two tuners with DVB-T2 and someone mentioned memory leaks. With nine multiplexes in UK that makes 45 pounds to record every channel at the same time. Imagine all the hours of QVC you could enjoy.

Em Smith wrote:

Does the patched driver now support more than one xbox one DVB-T2 tuner? I was following the thread and they were making great progress, but some people said it didn't support two tuners with DVB-T2 and someone mentioned memory leaks. With nine multiplexes in UK that makes 45 pounds to record every channel at the same time. Imagine all the hours of QVC you could enjoy.

Yep - driver now supports multiple tuners. I've not used it in anger - but have tested with two and both worked simultaneously with no major issues on a strong Crystal Palace DVB-T2 feed from a rooftop aerial.

I already have a 9 tuner set-up (3 x PS3 Play TV Dual DVB-T for PSB1/2, COM 3/4/5 and Local - 1 x Dual DVB-T2 Hauppauge WinTV Dual HD - COM7/8 and an August T210v1 - PSB3). You have to roll your own kernel to get round the default 8-adaptor maximum that stock kernels are usually compiled with - but it does work. I went for as many dual tuners as possible to keep the size and RF splitting minimised. I probably don't stress it that much - but do use it for remote viewing (both within the UK and overseas) via a VPN (no exposed ports) and for recording stuff I want to archive (day-to-day stuff is on the Sky HD PVR)

Stephen Neal wrote:

Em Smith wrote:

Does the patched driver now support more than one xbox one DVB-T2 tuner? I was following the thread and they were making great progress, but some people said it didn't support two tuners with DVB-T2 and someone mentioned memory leaks. With nine multiplexes in UK that makes 45 pounds to record every channel at the same time. Imagine all the hours of QVC you could enjoy.

That wasn't the driver, it was in tvheadend but was fixed by perexg PDQ!

Yep - driver now supports multiple tuners. I've not used it in anger - but have tested with two and both worked simultaneously with no major issues on a strong Crystal Palace DVB-T2 feed from a rooftop aerial.

Ditto.

I already have a 9 tuner set-up (3 x PS3 Play TV Dual DVB-T for PSB1/2, COM 3/4/5 and Local - 1 x Dual DVB-T2 Hauppauge WinTV Dual HD - COM7/8 and an August T210v1 - PSB3). You have to roll your own kernel to get round the default 8-adaptor maximum that stock kernels are usually compiled with - but it does work. I went for as many dual tuners as possible to keep the size and RF splitting minimised. I probably don't stress it that much - but do use it for remote viewing (both within the UK and overseas) via a VPN (no exposed ports) and for recording stuff I want to archive (day-to-day stuff is on the Sky HD PVR)

Both, thanks for the info, especially about the dvb limit since I didn't know about that. I've a mixed setup (T2, S2) and could always do with another tuner.

Em Smith wrote:

Are you definitely after PCIe? On ebay a DVB-T2 USB tuner is 17 pounds, so four would make 68 pounds, which is cheaper than the PCIe card. That means you could buy six of them. Or throw in a good signal booster and it is still cheaper. Though of course, cabling is much messier with usb tuners, but has the advantage that you can migrate them to lower-spec hardware (such as a Pi) in the future.

To be honest, I had never considered anything but an internal or network tuner.

I was under the impression that USB tuners were inferior in every way (ran too hot, were less sensitive, were less reliable etc.) but later posts suggest that they clearly seem more than capable of doing the job. I was also wary that using USB is more CPU intensive but that is probably insignificant anyway.

Is interesting that for not much money, you could cover every Mux and never have a clash when recording. I rarely tend to watch live TV and the amount of repeats (and +1) channels mean that I am rarely aware of clashes that take place and get rescheduled - it is definitely cool to know that you have access to every channel, whenever you want.

One thing that is puzzling me - I note that you have a USB stick dedicated to various MUXes. What is the advantage of this? Will TVHeadend not keep recording on the same TV Tuner and only move on to the next if a channel on another MUX is scheduled?

Sorry,

I have just seen what you have done - you reserved your HD capable tuner for the MUXes carrying HD channels. Very shrewd!

A L wrote:

Sorry,

I have just seen what you have done - you reserved your HD capable tuner for the MUXes carrying HD channels. Very shrewd!

I've reserved each tuner for a specific mux.

I have 9 networks - PSB1, PSB2, PSB3, COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7, COM8, Local - each with a single mux associated with it, and each associated with a single tuner. I have network discovery disabled so they don't all add additional muxes.

That way every channel is associated with a single tuner, but each tuner only has channels on the same frequency associated with it. Works very well.

Stephen Neal wrote:

Em Smith wrote:

Are you definitely after PCIe? On ebay a DVB-T2 USB tuner is 17 pounds, so four would make 68 pounds, which is cheaper than the PCIe card. That means you could buy six of them. Or throw in a good signal booster and it is still cheaper. Though of course, cabling is much messier with usb tuners, but has the advantage that you can migrate them to lower-spec hardware (such as a Pi) in the future.

Or a fiver (GBP£5) each if you are happy to work with the new XBox One DVB-T2 drivers - though I understand these aren't for everyone.

Where did you get those for £5???

I've read all that about usb tuners too.

My usb tuners are warm when in operation, but far cooler than my laptop and are cold quite soon after recording. PCI tuners are probably cooler because you have a case fan cooling them.

I gather that in some countries they have their tuners running 24x7 to grab EPG since they only have now+next, hence their tuners get warm from constant usage. Whereas in the UK, the EIT is easily retrieved during normal recording since it's broadcast on all channels. So maybe the usb is lower quality/warmer but it doesn't matter as much since your tuner might only have a few hours a day usage at a time, whereas in those countries maybe the constant 24x7 usage burns it out sooner. Or maybe it's just a myth.A poundshop usb fan would probably cool the usb cards just as well.

The usb tuners I have seem no different in quality to me than the tv, so I get occasional pixellation with the tv, all of the tuners, even with the dvb-s2 tuners. When watching a recording I can not tell with which tuner it has been recorded, which is as good a test as possible.

My tuners are often in operation for a good portion of the day since different people watch different things and we often record things that we only actually watch if we're in the mood or if specific people visit.

I think my oldest usb tuner is about six years old, made in China. I've had no problems with any of my tuners, but you never know if I'm lucky.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

They used to be a fiver on Amazon a couple of weeks ago when the xbox thread first started, but they're now nine pounds. CEX is a fiver second hand but you have to pay postage.

Maybe a little offtopic, but does this advised Hauppauge QUADHD card also support DVB-C on linux 4.8 (tested&working) since its only mentioned on the DVB-T(2) section of the V4L website?

I have two quad tuner TBS DVB-T2 PCI-e cards, it is a little bit of a pain having to having to recompile the drivers with every kernel update, but apart from that I have had no problems with them.

Ricardo Rocha wrote:

Stephen Neal wrote:

Em Smith wrote:

Are you definitely after PCIe? On ebay a DVB-T2 USB tuner is 17 pounds, so four would make 68 pounds, which is cheaper than the PCIe card. That means you could buy six of them. Or throw in a good signal booster and it is still cheaper. Though of course, cabling is much messier with usb tuners, but has the advantage that you can migrate them to lower-spec hardware (such as a Pi) in the future.

Or a fiver (GBP£5) each if you are happy to work with the new XBox One DVB-T2 drivers - though I understand these aren't for everyone.

Where did you get those for £5???

amazon.co.uk last month.