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Freesat channel numbers

Added by Tony Houghton over 9 years ago

I installed tvheadend from git yesterday. I want to use the Freesat channel numbering but I can't get it to use the Freesat data. Before starting the scan I went in to the EPG Grabber settings and disabled all the grabbers except for UK: Freesat and UK: Freeview (I also have a DVB-T2 receiver but want to concentrate on getting the Freesat working first). I also enabled the Update channel number and name settings. Then clicked Save.

However, after scanning, the list of services is full of encrypted Sky channels etc and all of the channel numbers are 0. I found an old post which said you can select a bouquet to get Freesat numbers. Most of the listed bouquets were BSkyB, none were neamed Freesat, so I enabled the England HD South/Meridian S one and disabled all the others, deleted all the services it had found so far and started another scan. Again it found loads of Sky channels with no channel numbers. How do I get Freesat?

BTW, there are SD, HD and G2 versions of the England bouquets. I presume HD and SD are high and standard definition, but what's G2 for?


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RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Mark Clarkstone over 9 years ago

Tony Houghton wrote:

I installed tvheadend from git yesterday. I want to use the Freesat channel numbering but I can't get it to use the Freesat data. Before starting the scan I went in to the EPG Grabber settings and disabled all the grabbers except for UK: Freesat and UK: Freeview (I also have a DVB-T2 receiver but want to concentrate on getting the Freesat working first). I also enabled the Update channel number and name settings. Then clicked Save.

However, after scanning, the list of services is full of encrypted Sky channels etc and all of the channel numbers are 0. I found an old post which said you can select a bouquet to get Freesat numbers. Most of the listed bouquets were BSkyB, none were neamed Freesat, so I enabled the England HD South/Meridian S one and disabled all the others, deleted all the services it had found so far and started another scan. Again it found loads of Sky channels with no channel numbers. How do I get Freesat?

BTW, there are SD, HD and G2 versions of the England bouquets. I presume HD and SD are high and standard definition, but what's G2 for?

You don't need to enable "Update channel number and name settings" I believe these only work for certain services/channels, bouquets have pretty much made these options redundant imo.

It also sounds like you're missing some bouquets, so you need to tune to the freesat mux (view a service like LBP TV) [11428000 H 27500000] so that tvheadend can find the rest upon doing so you should receive a list in the debug log pane like this:-

15-02-27 19:01:45.962 bouquet: new bouquet 'Wales HD: Wales'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Default'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Isle of Man'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Channel Islands/Channel Islands'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: N West/Granada'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Oxford/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Oxford/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: NE & C/Tyne Tees S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: NE & C/Tyne Tees N'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: NE & C/BorderEng'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: S West/W Country'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: South/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: South/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: South/W Country'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: South/Meridian SE'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: South/Meridian S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: S East/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: S East/Meridian E'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: S East/Meridian SE'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: S East/Meridian S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: West/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: West/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: West/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: West/West'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: East (E)/Anglia E'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: East (E)/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: East (E)/Anglia S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: E Midlands/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: E Midlands/Central E'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: E Midlands/Central W'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: E Midlands/Central E'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Yorkshire/Tyne Tees S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: EYrks&Lin/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: N West/BorderEng'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: N West/Granada'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.985 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: W Mids/Central SW'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.986 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: W Mids/Central W'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.986 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: East (W)/Anglia W'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.986 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: East (W)/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.986 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: East (W)/Anglia W'
2015-02-27 19:01:45.986 bouquet: new bouquet 'England HD: London/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.085 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland G2: Scotland/Scottish (Edinburgh)'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.085 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland G2: Scotland/Scottish (Glasgow)'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.085 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland G2: Scotland/BorderSco'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.085 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland G2: Scotland/Grampian'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.085 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland G2: Scotland/Grampian'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Default'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Isle of Man'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Yorkshire/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Channel Islands/Channel Islands'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: N West/Granada'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Oxford/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Oxford/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: NE & C/Tyne Tees S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: NE & C/Tyne Tees N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: NE & C/BorderEng'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: S West/W Country'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: South/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: South/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: South/W Country'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: South/Meridian SE'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: South/Meridian S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: S East/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: S East/Meridian E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: S East/Meridian SE'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: S East/Meridian S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: West/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: West/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: West/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: West/West'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: East (E)/Anglia E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: East (E)/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: East (E)/Anglia S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.199 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: E Midlands/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: E Midlands/Central E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: E Midlands/Central W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: E Midlands/Central E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Yorkshire/Tyne Tees S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: EYrks&Lin/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: N West/BorderEng'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: N West/Granada'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: W Mids/Central SW'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: W Mids/Central W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: East (W)/Anglia W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: East (W)/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: East (W)/Anglia W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.200 bouquet: new bouquet 'England G2: London/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.338 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland SD: Scotland/Scottish (Edinburgh)'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.339 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland SD: Scotland/Scottish (Glasgow)'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.339 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland SD: Scotland/BorderSco'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.339 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland SD: Scotland/Grampian'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.339 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland SD: Scotland/Grampian'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.412 bouquet: new bouquet 'Wales G2: Wales'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Isle of Man'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Channel Islands/Channel Islands'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: N West/Granada'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Oxford/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Oxford/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: NE & C/Tyne Tees S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: NE & C/Tyne Tees N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: NE & C/BorderEng'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: S West/W Country'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: South/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: South/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: South/W Country'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: South/Meridian SE'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: South/Meridian S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: S East/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: S East/Meridian E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: S East/Meridian SE'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: S East/Meridian S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.432 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: West/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: West/Meridian N'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: West/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: West/West'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: East (E)/Anglia E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: East (E)/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: East (E)/Anglia S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: E Midlands/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: E Midlands/Central E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: E Midlands/Central W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: E Midlands/Central E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Yorkshire/Tyne Tees S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: Yorkshire/Yorkshire W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: EYrks&Lin/Yorkshire E'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: N West/BorderEng'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: N West/Granada'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: W Mids/Central SW'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: W Mids/Central W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: East (W)/Anglia W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: East (W)/Central S'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: East (W)/Anglia W'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.433 bouquet: new bouquet 'England SD: London/London'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.600 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland HD: Scotland/Scottish (Edinburgh)'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.600 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland HD: Scotland/Scottish (Glasgow)'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.600 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland HD: Scotland/Grampian'
2015-02-27 19:01:46.600 bouquet: new bouquet 'Scotland HD: Scotland/Grampian'

You should have no issues then :)

Oh and don't be alarmed if you see some services mapped with odd names just view them and they should be updated (don't forget to refresh your browser).

Hope this helps!

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Tony Houghton over 9 years ago

I do have those bouquets but it won't use them. Thanks for your help, but there's no point in my wasting any more time on this. I just wanted something less painful to use than mythtv, but tvheadend clearly isn't going to be that even if I could fix this.

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Mark Clarkstone over 9 years ago

Tony Houghton wrote:

I do have those bouquets but it won't use them. Thanks for your help, but there's no point in my wasting any more time on this. I just wanted something less painful to use than mythtv, but tvheadend clearly isn't going to be that even if I could fix this.

Tvheadend is less painful than mythtv, it takes time to get used to.

As for it not using the selected bouquet you need to make sure that "Auto-Map to channels" is checked (checking Map Zero Numbers may help also).

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Tony Houghton over 9 years ago

OK, I got it working by enabling Auto-Map to channels, thanks. I didn't realise I had to do that, because with Freeview the numbers come up before mapping.

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Kev S over 9 years ago

BTW, there are SD, HD and G2 versions of the England bouquets. I presume HD and SD are high and standard definition, but what's G2 for?

G2 is basically linkage to internet delivered content, eg Netflix, so until we see front ends supporting hbb and MHEG5 with DRM (I.e. unlikely) it's pretty safe to ignore in TVHeadend.

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Michael Caddy about 8 years ago

Is it just me, or have all these bouquets disappered. Tuning directly to the mux which these are supposed to be on - which is now [11425000 H 27500000] - I do not see any bouquets added to TVHeadend. Likewise when passign through the stream to TSReader I do not see any BATs in the mux.

Has anyone else been able to find these boquets recently?

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Kev S about 8 years ago

I'm not convinced TVHeadend is parsing the Freesat home transponder correctly - I'm not seeing any of the services in the EPG Grabber section, the Bouqet's are present and the files are showing they were modified on October 20th (coincidentally the last time TVH restarted)

If I grab the home transponder (from my SAT>IP tuner - the full mux dump in TVH fails to work) as follows
curl -o /media/PVR2/test.ts "http://192.168.6.62/dlna/?type=DVB-S-AUTO&src=1&freq=11428&pol=h&sr=27500&pids=0,1,3002,3003"

and open it using the [[http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=837707|Freesat EPG Parser from Digital Spy Forums]] the EPG is correctly parsed

However in TVHeadend the log file is full of
Oct 23 03:14:58 williams tvheadend[1520]: epggrab: UK: Freesat - data completion timeout for 11428H in Astra - 28.2°E

tv_grab_dvb_plus which is supposed to work with it fails too - never finishes or writes to the file
./tv_grab_dvb_plus -f freesat -i /media/PVR2/test.ts -t 5 -o /media/PVR2/freesat.xml

Not sure if it's relevant, but the PID with the EPG data in it is supposedly 3003 and while TSReaderLite shows 3003 and 3002 are present in that TS file - I can't see them listed against any service in TVHeadend itself.

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RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Tony Houghton almost 8 years ago

Has anyone worked out whether this problem with the missing bouquets is a bug in tvheadend and which versions are affected? The version I'm running seems OK, it's 4.0.9-16~g63c1034-xenial. However, 16.04 isn't Ubuntu's best effort and I'm tempted to upgrade the distro, but I don't want to risk losing Freesat.

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Kev S almost 8 years ago

Since my previous post in October I've upgraded to "Build: 4.1-2346~gc09f704 (2016-11-30T14:51:19+0000)" and the Freesat Bouquet/EPG Grabber's still doesn't work

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Colm Buckley almost 8 years ago

I'm seeing the same - no Freesat bouquets showing up from Astra 28.2 at all; just lots of BSB and a few other national (encrypted) sets.

The channels appear fine, but I really don't want to go trying to number them all by hand.

This is 4.1-2405. Anyone trying a more recent version?

RE: Freesat channel numbers - Added by Colm Buckley almost 8 years ago

Adding the Freesat MUX explicitly (11.428MHz / H / 27.5Mbaud) eventually caused these bouquets to show up. Shrug

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