Tvheadend

Thank you Hiro for all this debugging stuff.
I tried the m3u list with pipe and without pipe but TVH log says "IPTV: Unable to open the http client."
I tested the video flux with ffmpeg (I have no ffprobe). I had the correct output, I mean the same you had
root@NAS-GG:/usr/bin# ffmpeg -i 'http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net:80/i/dwstream4_live@131329/index_1_av-p.m3u8'
ffmpeg version 2.7.1 Copyright (c) 2000-2015 the FFmpeg developers
...
Input #0, hls,applehttp, from 'http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net:80/i/dwstream4_live@131329/index_1_av-p.m3u8':
Duration: N/A, start: 39084.066322, bitrate: N/A
Program 0
Metadata:
variant_bitrate : 0
Stream #0:0: Video: h264 (Main) ([27][0][0][0] / 0x001B), yuv420p(tv), 720x400 [SAR 1:1 DAR 9:5], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
Stream #0:1: Audio: aac (LC) ([15][0][0][0] / 0x000F), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 63 kb/s
Stream #0:2: Data: timed_id3 (ID3 / 0x20334449)
At least one output file must be specified


I specify the path of the m3u list in TVH as following
/volume1/video/HiroList_np.m3u8

This path seems correct. The ssh output below seems to check that
root@NAS-GG:/# cd /volume1/video/
root@NAS-GG:/volume1/video# dir
total 12
d---------+ 1 root root 148 Apr 14 09:41 .
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 218 Mar 20 10:59 ..
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 root root 8 Mar 20 10:59 @eaDir
d---------+ 1 admin users 2590 Mar 24 17:26 Enregistrements
d---------+ 1 admin users 2014 Mar 21 16:31 Films
----------+ 1 admin users 214 Apr 14 08:45 HiroList_np.m3u8
----------+ 1 admin users 563 Apr 13 10:25 HiroList_p.m3u8
-r-xr-xr-x+ 1 admin users 1073 Apr 8 15:21 OrFree_short.m3u8

The 2 lists "HiroList..." are p (with pipe) and np (no pipe).
They are exactly the lists you gave me above.

I despair not being able to get anything other than "unable to open http client"

gabier

"unable to open http client"

At what point do you get this?

I presume you've gone through the process of creating an IP Automatic Network?

Could you post the Network config page?

I had this message when clicked on "Enforce a scan".

But as for now I have no message anymore. I checked again with ffmpeg that the output seemed OK. It is!

I join an image of TVH (Network screen). I clicked on Edit so that you can see the data.

Yes I have defined the network and I chose "IPTV Automatic Network"

Edit : I have again the message when clicking on "Enforce a scan" It had disappeared because I had not "activated" the network.

I wondered if it could not be a problem of rights on the m3u8 file ? I tried to change to all rights for everybody to see what happen, but I had the same error "IPTV: unable to open http client" as soon as I click "Enforce a scan".
Anyway what rights should be granted to the list in order for TVH to use it properly ? what type of user is TVH for that list ?

gabier

Hello,

We cannot get TVH working on my Synology NAS. I wondered if the reason could not be some differences between DSM (the Synology system) and Linux. DSM is supposed to be a Linux system, but it is tailored by Synology and maybe there are differences.

Has anybody here knowledge of people who use successfully a Synology system with TVH running as IPTV back-end on it ? I have an example in the form of a tutorial with the same configuration, but it is 2 years old, and DSM could change in the meanwhile.

gabier

Hello,

It seems i have no solution here to have TVHE running on my Synology NAS.

I am going to ask the questio on Synology forums : Do people use TVHE ? If yes, any idea why TVHE cannot read my Playlists ?

If I have no solution from there, I will give up the Synology solution. I will wait until I can safely order some hardware, and I will order a Linux system, maybe a Raspberry Pi ? Anyway a Linux system that many people use here with TVHE, so that I can be confident that things can work on a system similar to mine.

gabier

For IPTV.
I have fiber Internet. The Nvidia Shield is wired directly to the ISP Internet Box.

I hope it helps

Hello Megan,

We are in the same situation. I have Fiber Interne alsot. And my Nvidia Shield is also wired directly to the ISP Internet box.

gabier

Hello again , Megan,

I forgot to ask you if you use TVHE on a Synology NAS.

gabier

Gabriel Galand wrote:

It seems i have no solution here to have TVHE running on my Synology NAS.

I know nothing about Synology myself, but search these forums, there a thread with hundreds of postings about tvheadend on Synology.

Hiro Protagonist wrote:

I know nothing about Synology myself, but search these forums, there a thread with hundreds of postings about tvheadend on Synology.

I did search them, and re-searched them this morning. I am not as optimistic as you seem to be.

On the french Synology forum, a detailed search feature is available. I you search "TVHeaEnd", you indeed have hundreds of posts. But a post with 10 answers counts for 10 posts. And if you search "TVheadEnd" And "IPTV" (both terme required), the results boil down to 10. I have looked at all of them and none contains clearly an IPTV and TVHE setup running.

On the US forum unfortunately there are is no such detailed search feature. The keywords "TVHeadEnd" OR "IPTV" (one keyword or the other one) gathers also hundreds of results. But they concern all sorts of hardware devices around Synology. I have read the first 5 pages (about 50 posts) I did not find a single one looking like my problem.

I am not yet convinced that a TVHeadEnd on a Synology NAS and an IPTV setting is working somewhere. I have posted on these 2 forums. maybe I have an answer ...

gabier

This the thread I was thinking of:
https://tvheadend.org/boards/5/topics/27780?page=1&r=36515

Perhaps one of the people contributing there could assist?

Hello Hiro,

Thank you for the link I note. But there has been progress to-day. I was somewhat intrigued by a thread in the french synology forum where the author wrote that he could use remote m3u lists but not local ones.
So I looked at your m3u list and I retrieved the link which is called by the first entry (Deutsche Welle). This is indeed a link to a remote m3u list which is a list of TV streams.
I entered the address of this list in TVHE as follows
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net:80/i/dwstream4_live@131329/index_1_av-p.m3u8
And Bingo!! the transponders column immediately populated with 178 transponders and 178 services.
My conclusion for that point is that either TVHE on synology cannot read local files, or there is a way of coding the local lists that we don't know. Only specialists could look at the TVHE code to understand.

Anyway I am not yet at the conclusion. As it is explained in the tutorial I have, I mapped all the services. Then I went to the Kodi client and in the configuration tab I entered the NAS url, and also my Id and password for TVHE. After restartins Kodi, I should see the Tv services in the Kodi TV tab; It don't see them yet, maybe I have forgotten something.
But at least things have moved considerably.

gabier

Gabriel Galand wrote:

And Bingo!! the transponders column immediately populated with 178 transponders and 178 services.

Good.

My conclusion for that point is that either TVHE on synology cannot read local files, or there is a way of coding the local lists that we don't know. Only specialists could look at the TVHE code to understand.

Most likely the path has not been entered correctly, or the permissions are wrong. Maybe you could ask for help in that thread?

Anyway I am not yet at the conclusion. As it is explained in the tutorial I have, I mapped all the services. Then I went to the Kodi client and in the configuration tab I entered the NAS url, and also my Id and password for TVHE. After restartins Kodi, I should see the Tv services in the Kodi TV tab; It don't see them yet, maybe I have forgotten something.

Under Configuration/Users, make sure the user Kodi is logging in via has HTSP set under streaming.
Also, have the logviewer open on the web interface when Kodi connects to see if there are any errors.

Hiro Protagonist wrote:

Most likely the path has not been entered correctly, or the permissions are wrong. Maybe you could ask for help in that thread?

I am not sure of that. Wrong path : this path does not fail when I access the list by ssh. Wrong permission : I mentioned above that I had performed a test with modification of the file permissions by ssh and chmod. I did set the maximum permissions and that did not change anything. I am willing to ask in the thread you mentioned, but I will do it later because I have an alternative solution with the remote list, and also the thread looks like a dead thread (last posts 2 years ago)

Under Configuration/Users, make sure the user Kodi is logging in via has HTSP set under streaming.
Also, have the logviewer open on the web interface when Kodi connects to see if there are any errors.

Well after having entered these data following your indications, I had authentication failures for the Kodi client in the TVHE log. I remembered TVHE is very touchy about multi purpose users. I created in TVHE a special user for the kodi client login (streaming "HTSP"). After that the client could login successfully, but now the log is flooded with hundreds of messages about scanning, subscribing etc ...
Is this log also in a file somewhere or is it possible to send it to a file ?
Now I can see 4 lines in the Kodi TV panel


1. DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}
2. Service 01
3. DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}
4. Service 01

But in the right panel it is mentioned "No Information" or, for the 2 services from time to time "No signal"

Edit Now only the "Service 01" lines are displayed but again with "no informations" on the right panel and "No signal" from time to time.

I have also to note that in the mux tab in the TVHE interface the services sometimes "unmap" and I have to "map all services" again.

I go on with tests

gabier

I managed to extract a few lines from the log.

2020-04-20 11:06:25.426 mpegts: index_1_av-p.m3u8 in DeutscheWelle - tuning on IPTV #1
2020-04-20 11:06:25.462 subscription: 48AF: "192.168.1.29 [ kodi | Kodi Media Center ]" subscribing on channel "Service01", weight: 100, adapter: "IPTV #1", network: "DeutscheWelle", mux: "index_1_av-p.m3u8", provider: "FFmpeg", service: "Service01", profile="htsp", hostname="192.168.1.29", username="kodi", client="Kodi Media Center"
2020-04-20 11:06:41.426 subscription: 48AF: service instance is bad, reason: No input detected
2020-04-20 11:06:41.426 mpegts: index_1_av-p.m3u8 in DeutscheWelle - tuning on IPTV #2
2020-04-20 11:06:41.428 subscription: 48AF: "192.168.1.29 [ kodi | Kodi Media Center ]" subscribing on channel "Service01", weight: 100, adapter: "IPTV #2", network: "DeutscheWelle", mux: "index_1_av-p.m3u8", provider: "FFmpeg", service: "Service01", profile="htsp", hostname="192.168.1.29", username="kodi", client="Kodi Media Center"
2020-04-20 11:06:57.427 subscription: 48AF: service instance is bad, reason: No input detected

It seems there is no IPTV stream in the DeutscheWelle Display List. But this list is

http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net:80/i/dwstream4_live@131329/index_1_av-p.m3u8

And if I open the same list in VLC or DVBViewer, they both display immediately the DW news. So what is wrong with TVHE and Kodi Client ?

gabier

Gabriel Galand wrote:
I am willing to ask in the thread you mentioned, but I will do it later because I have an alternative solution with the remote list, and also the thread looks like a dead thread (last posts 2 years ago)

Thread was created 2 years ago. Go to last post & you will see it is 2 months old.

Well after having entered these data following your indications, I had authentication failures for the Kodi client in the TVHE log. I remembered TVHE is very touchy about multi purpose users. I created in TVHE a special user for the kodi client login (streaming "HTSP"). After that the client could login successfully, but now the log is flooded with hundreds of messages about scanning, subscribing etc ...
Is this log also in a file somewhere or is it possible to send it to a file ?

This will depend on your system. Normally this will be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog

Gabriel Galand wrote:

It seems there is no IPTV stream in the DeutscheWelle Display List. But this list is

http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net:80/i/dwstream4_live@131329/index_1_av-p.m3u8

And if I open the same list in VLC or DVBViewer, they both display immediately the DW news. So what is wrong with TVHE and Kodi Client ?

Suggest you edit the network you have created and ensure "Idle scan muxes" is disabled, and increase "Maximum timeout".

Hiro Protagonist wrote:

Suggest you edit the network you have created and ensure "Idle scan muxes" is disabled, and increase "Maximum timeout".

"Idle Scan muxes" is disabled and I am not sure what "maximum timeout " is (they are in french, maybe I should have an English language default...). I have 2 delays. One is in seconds, I increased it to 60, the 2nd is minutes I increased it to 180.

From googling a little I thought that maybe the Kodi client does not like empty channels, and I should edit the channel list so that names are properly set and empty channels deleted. Is that correct ? If yes I do not know how to edit this channel list.
There are 178 muxes and 178 services but 1600 channels. How can I find which are good and which are empty/disabled ?
When not yet mapped, the channel list is 1600 lines long and the names are all "{name-not-set}".
When mapped ("map all services"), in the "Channel/EPG-->Channels" tab the list becomes 1956 lines long. Most have still "{name-not-set}" but the last 178 lines at the very bottom of the list are

6 lines like the following
Name : DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096} Number: 1 to 6 Services : DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}
172 lines like the following
Name: Service01 Number 7 to 178 : Services : DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}/Service01

Yesterday my Kodi client displayed one of each kind of lines. Probably the content was empty or wrong and it aborted the search.
How can I know if some or all these services are valid TV streams ? There is a little arrow at the beginning of each line, it sends the flux to the application of your choice. I picked a few lines and sent the stream to VLC and DVB viewer but none could be opened. Was I not lucky and some channels can be opened, or again is there something wrong in my setting/parameters ?

gabier

Hello,

This is a newbie thread and I will once again ask newbie questions. I do not understand how IPTV m3u display lists work, and how TVHE handles them.

Thanks to Hiro I have a m3u8 list with 2 networks entries, one for DeutscheWelle and one for Bloomberg. I will concentrate on DeutscheWelle.
If you open this sublist in vlc it displays DW News and only this channel.

Here is the entry
#EXTINF:0,Deutsche Welle
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net:80/i/dwstream4_live@131329/index_1_av-p.m3u8

In fact another list is called. If we retrieve this remote list, we get the following (I omitted a large part of the list)

#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-TARGETDURATION:10
#EXT-X-ALLOW-CACHE:YES
#EXT-X-VERSION:3
#EXT-X-MEDIA-SEQUENCE:13036935
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13036935_1_av-p.ts?sd=10
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13036936_1_av-p.ts?sd=10
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13036937_1_av-p.ts?sd=10
......
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13037108_1_av-p.ts?sd=10
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13037109_1_av-p.ts?sd=10
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13037110_1_av-p.ts?sd=10
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13037111_1_av-p.ts?sd=10
#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13037112_1_av-p.ts?sd=10


There are 178 http streams.
1st question : They are not valid IPTV streams.If anyone is opened with VLC, VLC tells you that it cannot read this remote stream . So what are they ? Does the IPTV client remux all the 178 streams to get the Dw channel ?

Now let us turn to TVHE. When asked to read this IPTV network, it scans it and finds
- the name : DeutscheWelle
- muxes : it finds 178 of them.
- services: again 178 of them
If you map "all services" (i do not know what "mapping" is but i have read that you must do that) in the Service tab you get 178 services which are named "nnn DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}" where nnn is the numer from 178 to 1.
These 178 services seem to be the 178 ts streams we have seen above in the remote m3u list. If they are, they are not valid IPTV streams, so why are they registered as services ?
As for the "Channel/EPG-->Channels" tab, it displays 2312 lines. All but the 178 last lines are named "{name-not-set}". The 178 last lines are named "DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}"
As for the Kodi client, it displays 4 channels, I suppose the first 4 of the 178. Their name is again "DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}" if we try to display one of them, it displays after a while "No signal".

All this seems to be nonsense to me. If there is a meaning please explain me. If not, I suppose the DeutscheWelle list I thought was good is in fact not understood by TVHE. Or I have not handled it correctly.
Indeed TVHE interface is not very friendly with newbies !!!!

gabier

Gabriel Galand wrote:

"Idle Scan muxes" is disabled and I am not sure what "maximum timeout " is (they are in french, maybe I should have an English language default...). I have 2 delays. One is in seconds, I increased it to 60, the 2nd is minutes I increased it to 180.

The one in seconds is what you want.

From googling a little I thought that maybe the Kodi client does not like empty channels, and I should edit the channel list so that names are properly set and empty channels deleted. Is that correct ? If yes I do not know how to edit this channel list.

Yes, channels need to have names.

There are 178 muxes and 178 services but 1600 channels. How can I find which are good and which are empty/disabled ?
When not yet mapped, the channel list is 1600 lines long and the names are all "{name-not-set}".
When mapped ("map all services"), in the "Channel/EPG-->Channels" tab the list becomes 1956 lines long. Most have still "{name-not-set}" but the last 178 lines at the very bottom of the list are

6 lines like the following
Name : DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096} Number: 1 to 6 Services : DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}
172 lines like the following
Name: Service01 Number 7 to 178 : Services : DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}/Service01


OK, at the very least you should delete all the name-not-set channels.

As for the rest, it very much depends what's in the IPTV networks .m3u8 file.

Yesterday my Kodi client displayed one of each kind of lines. Probably the content was empty or wrong and it aborted the search.
How can I know if some or all these services are valid TV streams ? There is a little arrow at the beginning of each line, it sends the flux to the application of your choice. I picked a few lines and sent the stream to VLC and DVB viewer but none could be opened. Was I not lucky and some channels can be opened, or again is there something wrong in my setting/parameters ?

See my response below. If your Kodi client does not have a correct view of the TVH channels, you can fix that as shown in this post: https://tvheadend.org/boards/14/topics/41075?r=41219#message-41219

Gabriel Galand wrote:

Hello,

This is a newbie thread and I will once again ask newbie questions. I do not understand how IPTV m3u display lists work, and how TVHE handles them.

Thanks to Hiro I have a m3u8 list with 2 networks entries, one for DeutscheWelle and one for Bloomberg. I will concentrate on DeutscheWelle.

If you open this sublist in vlc it displays DW News and only this channel.

Here is the entry
@#EXTINF:0,Deutsche Welle
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net:80/i/dwstream4_live@131329/index_1_av-p.m3u8

Forget about VLC, what does TVHeadend do?

@
In fact another list is called. If we retrieve this remote list, we get the following (I omitted a large part of the list)

#EXTINF:10.000,
http://dwstream4-lh.akamaihd.net/i/dwstream4_live@131329/segment13036935_1_av-p.ts?sd=10

There are 178 http streams.
1st question : They are not valid IPTV streams.If anyone is opened with VLC, VLC tells you that it cannot read this remote stream . So what are they ?

As the name suggests they are segments - these make up the playlist of video segments comprising the current program.

Does the IPTV client remux all the 178 streams to get the Dw channel ?

Each segment is played in turn. Note that the info you have retrieved here changes dynamically - you cannot use it to create an IPTV channel.

Now let us turn to TVHE. When asked to read this IPTV network, it scans it and finds
- the name : DeutscheWelle
- muxes : it finds 178 of them.
- services: again 178 of them

OK, this is wrong - is this what happens when you use the .m3u8 entry you quoted above? If so, it's not correct - youshould have 1 mux & 1 service.

If you map "all services" (i do not know what "mapping" is but i have read that you must do that) in the Service tab you get 178 services which are named "nnn DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}" where nnn is the numer from 178 to 1.
These 178 services seem to be the 178 ts streams we have seen above in the remote m3u list. If they are, they are not valid IPTV streams, so why are they registered as services ?
As for the "Channel/EPG-->Channels" tab, it displays 2312 lines. All but the 178 last lines are named "{name-not-set}". The 178 last lines are named "DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}"
As for the Kodi client, it displays 4 channels, I suppose the first 4 of the 178. Their name is again "DeutscheWelle/index_1_av-p.m3u8/{PMT:4096}" if we try to display one of them, it displays after a while "No signal".

Delete them all. They are not valid.

All this seems to be nonsense to me. If there is a meaning please explain me. If not, I suppose the DeutscheWelle list I thought was good is in fact not understood by TVHE. Or I have not handled it correctly.

Indeed - I originally posted the .m3u8 I was using which piped via ffmpeg - what was the problem with that?

If you're getting anything more than 1 mux per channel entry in the .m3u8 file, it's not working correctly.

Hiro thanks again for your patient help. As for me, my faith in TVHE is weakening ...

Hiro Protagonist wrote:

Delete them all. They are not valid.

OK this makes sense

Gabriel Galand wrote:
... I suppose the DeutscheWelle list I thought was good is in fact not understood by TVHE. Or I have not handled it correctly.

Indeed - I originally posted the .m3u8 I was using which piped via ffmpeg - what was the problem with that?

If you're getting anything more than 1 mux per channel entry in the .m3u8 file, it's not working correctly.

The problem with your list was that it is a local list, and on that Synology system TVHE cannot read local lists; That is why I imagined to retrieve the remote list in place of the local list. But you say clearly that this is a dead-end.

Well the bottom line is that the problem to be solved first is to have TVHE read local m3u files. You suggested to ask the question in a synology thread. I am now willing to do that but I could not find how to get at the end of the thread in order to post a new post. There are 283 pages. How do I get there ? At the bottom of the page I can press page 12 but not beyond ...

gabier

Gabriel Galand wrote:

The problem with your list was that it is a local list, and on that Synology system TVHE cannot read local lists;

How do you know this?

Well the bottom line is that the problem to be solved first is to have TVHE read local m3u files. You suggested to ask the question in a synology thread. I am now willing to do that but I could not find how to get at the end of the thread in order to post a new post. There are 283 pages. How do I get there ? At the bottom of the page I can press page 12 but not beyond ...

There are 283 messages, and 12 pages. The end of page 12 is the last message.

There's also nothing stopping you from starting your own thread, if you put Synology in the title you might get help from people better able to answer synology questions.

Hello Hiro,

Sorry for "213 pages" ... I am no yet accustomed to the forum interface. I searched the original thread for m3u files problems but I did not find anything, so I created a new thread.
Hope a Synology user will answer.

gabier